tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post1173820804835808875..comments2024-03-28T13:59:11.445-07:00Comments on Left Behind and Loving It: Parables of Plunder D. Mark Davishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12016377712982292924noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-79590287290720622292018-06-09T15:32:17.142-07:002018-06-09T15:32:17.142-07:00So, the family say (as a defense against demonizat...So, the family say (as a defense against demonization or because they are afraid they will be driven out of town along with him, this time, or because they are genuinely flummoxed by his recent behavior) Jesus is standing outside himself, when in actuality the family who are trying to control Jesus, are the ones standing outside him - and are, along with most of the crowd, unable to really see him for who he really is.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06518191954399493970noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-47509696236644634512018-06-05T12:51:11.992-07:002018-06-05T12:51:11.992-07:00Yes. I thought so. I remember Tillich talking abou...Yes. I thought so. I remember Tillich talking about 'ecstasy' meaning to 'stand outside oneself.' That puts being beside oneself with joy very close to being beside oneself with insanity, I think. D. Mark Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12016377712982292924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-4390825737390299282018-06-04T08:27:50.732-07:002018-06-04T08:27:50.732-07:00I think you're right about the root:
ecstasy (...I think you're right about the root:<br />ecstasy (n.)<br />late 14c., extasie "elation," from Old French estaise "ecstasy, rapture," from Late Latin extasis, from Greek ekstasis "entrancement, astonishment, insanity; any displacement or removal from the proper place," in New Testament "a trance," from existanai "displace, put out of place," also "drive out of one's mind" (existanai phrenon), from ek "out" (see ex-) + histanai "to place, cause to stand," from PIE root *sta- "to stand, make or be firm."<br />https://www.etymonline.com/word/ecstasyStevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12348078985522197996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-62958045500872776382015-06-06T18:32:39.073-07:002015-06-06T18:32:39.073-07:00Thanks, Erin. I like where you're going with t...Thanks, Erin. I like where you're going with this. I remember years ago Jack Rogers said we tend to think of those who disagree with us as either 'ignorant' or 'evil,' because what we believe is so obviously right. It dawned on me when translating this text that Jesus was charged with these very things - he was either insane or diabolical. That's been gnawing at me all week. <br />Thanks again for your note. <br />MDD. Mark Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12016377712982292924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-65324412949436122142015-06-06T16:33:51.731-07:002015-06-06T16:33:51.731-07:00*...who aren't as proficient!**...who aren't as proficient!*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-20561451562917873212015-06-06T16:33:00.520-07:002015-06-06T16:33:00.520-07:00Mark, this is so helpful, thank you. I too, was co...Mark, this is so helpful, thank you. I too, was confused about who was saying that Jesus was insane. It seems as if it is the religious leaders, maybe piling onto the excitement that is already happening when people are elbow to elbow listening to something they have never heard quite that like before. A vision of a place or a state of being that they are not familiar with...would be disconcerting or even disturbing, and when it was delivered outside the synagogue, well, it might be seen as suspect, maybe? So, perhaps, his family is trying to "shut him up" so they won't be ostracized from their hometown. And it gives Jesus a chance to deconstruct the family as they knew it and then remake/reconstruct in the image of God? That is a trail I am following right now...<br /><br />I love your translations, they are really good and thoughtful. Thanks for sharing your gifts to inform us preachers who are as proficient. <br /><br />Erin Thomas<br />Calvary RiversideAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com