tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post6295955847074994914..comments2024-03-28T13:59:11.445-07:00Comments on Left Behind and Loving It: Tevye and Golde sing "Do you love me?"D. Mark Davishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12016377712982292924noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-29950433680693315442022-04-27T18:59:55.909-07:002022-04-27T18:59:55.909-07:00It makes more sense to me that Lazarus was not res...It makes more sense to me that Lazarus was not resurrected like Jesus, just resuscitated, like the son of the widow, and the other folks brought back to life by Jesus and the disciples. How awful for Lazarus, etc., to "live forever" like the family in Tuck Everlasting, while his sisters and everyone he knew died. Jesus is referred to as the first fruit.Christine GJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-62914602923555191272022-04-27T06:38:16.734-07:002022-04-27T06:38:16.734-07:00Jawohl! Let's think along those lines.Jawohl! Let's think along those lines. D. Mark Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12016377712982292924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-1450514040695829402022-04-25T17:03:28.139-07:002022-04-25T17:03:28.139-07:00I like the suggestion that the 153 might refer to ...I like the suggestion that the 153 might refer to the 153,000 workers that Solomon employed to build the temple (2 Chron 2:2). There's something in all this net-fish-numbers language that suggests the building/catching of a new temple. More certainly, the 'new community' idea runs through this whole episode. Given John's interest in the temple and in Jesus' body as the new temple, it seems worth thinking along these lines, nicht wahr?Rick Strelanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09748454442741602352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-314249884692803522019-05-03T13:49:44.365-07:002019-05-03T13:49:44.365-07:00It is suggested somewhere in 40 years of ministry ...It is suggested somewhere in 40 years of ministry that 153 represents the number of known nations in the world at that time - suggesting that all are included.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-71323026510848827562019-05-03T05:39:29.155-07:002019-05-03T05:39:29.155-07:00Within John's story, that's exactly what I...Within John's story, that's exactly what I think makes the most sense.<br />Thanks, LizD. Mark Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12016377712982292924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-17801610663736410232019-05-01T18:37:00.383-07:002019-05-01T18:37:00.383-07:00Thanks so much for this page. I read it each wee...Thanks so much for this page. I read it each week - insightful and funny to boot. I wonder if the conversation about the beloved disciple not dying is another indication that the beloved disciple is Lazarus. He has already died, and been resurrected, and so the question posed by the disciples is "does that mean he has to die again, or does he live forever?"Liz Hamelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-66239364634575222042016-04-10T20:09:49.212-07:002016-04-10T20:09:49.212-07:00Hmm... I think that is kinda fishy - so to speak. ...Hmm... I think that is kinda fishy - so to speak. D. Mark Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12016377712982292924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-433763071811149642016-04-10T11:52:19.903-07:002016-04-10T11:52:19.903-07:00This site: http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/mean...This site: http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/153.html says that Jesus blessed a total of 153 people in 48 incidents.CarynWhttps://carynw.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-66215115078365534542016-04-03T05:36:28.769-07:002016-04-03T05:36:28.769-07:00Virgil,
I don't know how to adjudicate betwee...Virgil, <br />I don't know how to adjudicate between my inclination that it is the repetition and your inclination that it is the word use that grieves Peter here. I agree that the difference between the two words seems important in the passage, but I don't know what that importance is. And I think I have overstated my position, so I am going to modify it. <br />But, when you say, "It's not a stretch of interpretation to understand that Peter feels bad to hear his own reticence to love the Lord as he has been asked finally echoed right back at him," you are presuming that agape and phileo have clear and substantial differences, which I am not ready to accept. Hence, my caution in putting too much value on what we reckon to be the words at play in the conversation. D. Mark Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12016377712982292924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-25475344839282402512013-08-05T01:14:26.717-07:002013-08-05T01:14:26.717-07:00In fact, Simon is grieved that Jesus asks him agai...<i>In fact, Simon is grieved that Jesus asks him again, with no attention to Jesus’ change of words from ἀγαπάω to φιλέω. ... Simon’s grievance that Jesus would ask him the same question a third time, regardless of the fact that Jesus changed his wording.</i><br /><br />I don't understand this. Peter's sorrow the third time is specifically about the Lord's changing his wording. He's absolutely attentive to it. He is not grieved that the same question is asked a third time: he is grieved that the third time the Lord asked, "Are you fond of me?" adopting Peter's choice of words and sentiment. It's not a stretch of interpretation to understand that Peter feels bad to hear his own reticence to love the Lord as he has been asked finally echoed right back at him. The difference between the two words remains crucial throughout the passage. Peter is a character in Scripture who vacillates between boldness and cowardice, and this is an example of how he still has a ways to go before he fulfills what the Lord expects of him. That he is disappointed with himself, and feels it most painfully when his shortcoming is verbalized by Christ (in the third question) is crucial to the story.<br /><br />Sorry, I just stumbled on your blog, and I know it's out of the ordinary to post a comment on an old post (even just a few months old in these here-today-gone-today times), but this just left me scratching my head. So anyway, pardon the intrusion. I hope you find something of value in my comment.Virgil T. Moranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12097568763565190893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-6197007335038907242013-04-14T10:00:04.102-07:002013-04-14T10:00:04.102-07:00Victoria,
It would be neat if the number were 3.1...Victoria, <br />It would be neat if the number were 3.14, or something that Dan Brown could include in his next thriller. <br />I was told this week that 153 is the number of known species of fish in the ancient world, although that sounds suspiciously like one of those "facts" that gets invented to answer an unanswered question. <br />I cannot fathom the significance of 153, although I have to admit that I have not read about it too much. <br />I'd welcome anyone else's wisdom on it! From Mark Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08343191370740534861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-12418573110044079052013-04-14T07:56:43.304-07:002013-04-14T07:56:43.304-07:00Elsewhere in the bible, we're told that number...Elsewhere in the bible, we're told that numbers can have symbolic significance, or can be read as codenames. Might that 153 signify a name or concept?<br /><br />Its factors are 9*17, and 3*51: do those numbers suggest anything?<br /><br />I ask because I'm hearing echos in this story of the feeding of the multitudes, in which the number of baskets left over has been argued to have significance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-74708110901496625472013-04-14T03:23:52.088-07:002013-04-14T03:23:52.088-07:00Thanks, Greg. Welcome back into pastoral ministry....Thanks, Greg. Welcome back into pastoral ministry. I hope your work is fruitful and glorifies God.From Mark Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08343191370740534861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8320313747187588188.post-33809425290741452422013-04-13T19:12:54.584-07:002013-04-13T19:12:54.584-07:00Hi Mark - as always, thank you for this. I am rec...Hi Mark - as always, thank you for this. I am recently back in pastoral ministry after a dozen years away, and my Greek was pretty shaky to start with... so your Greek translation is greatly appreciated. Your pastoral heart is also very evident. Blessings!!Greg Wooleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03976281472416617058noreply@blogger.com